Here is a presentation on Dataguard I have given a number of times. In particular I go through several issues we have encountered while running a Physical Standby in production.
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Posted by jarneil on March 16, 2009
Cold journey downwards to Slough, and somehow I managed to completely tear to shreds the back of my shirt just by stretching too much, a bit like the Incredible Hulk. Oh dear, at least I did not turn green.
Astonishingly quiet attendance at the first RAC sig of the year. Not sure whether it is a sign of economic doom and gloom, or a reflection on the agenda, which seemed a bit light, and far too much vendor led.
Julian Dyke outgoing chairman gave a valedictory speech as he has to stand down as chairman of the RAC SIG, now that he has been elected to the UKOUG board.
The days agenda has a theme around replication – not a bad idea having a theme, as I say just a shame it was so vendor led.
Survey of who is using what still going:
#nodes in cluster: vast majority of 2 a sprinkling of 3 and 4.
vast majority running on Linux almost 50/50 32bit and 64bit, majority on RHEL. none on oracle enterprise linux.
sprinkling on windows, a little bit more on Solaris Sparc, and a couple on HP-UX.
A few on 9.2, a couple on 10.1, vast majoirty on 10gR2, no one has got 11.1 RAC in production.
No one using RAC with iSCSI, a couple on NAS, and most on FC.
EMC largest storage vendor, a few HP’s, IBMs, Netapp.
A good number using ASM, a few with OCFS1/2
I think these survey numbers have been fairly constant for a while now.
Oracle Support Update – Phil Davies.
Usual support update from Phil.
Of note is that 10.2.0.5 will be the terminal release, for 10gR2.
Looks like an interesting bug in 126.96.36.199 Rolling upgrade to ASM fails MetaLink Note: 742647.1 There is a patch for this issue.
Streams Based Replication – Martin Bach
Martin is one of the most knowledgeable guys around, and in December he obtained the Oracle Certified Master qualification.
This was a nice presentation giving a grounding in how Oracle Streams works.
Streams is versitile but complex, the Oracle documentation runs to 3 manuals just for streams. As streams is not really a well used database feature there can be a lot of bugs with it. Note 413353.1
There was also a good discussion of some issues Martin has encountered while running streams.
Minimising downtime when upgrading/migrating Oracle with Goldengate – Ian Richardson
Goldengate does replication including bi-directional replication
The architecture of goldengate seems quite similar to oracle streams, has a capture, paropagate, and deliver (or apply) process. It’s completely platform independent can use it to go from 1 type of platform to another, or indeed 1 oracle version to another. It does seem like a great way of minimising downtime during migrations/upgrades.
Lessons From a 2 year stretch with an extended RAC Cluster – Pavel Rabel
Extended RAC is having RAC nodes separated by quite a distance. This is lessons from BT.
In 11g docs Extended RAC is becoming an accepted architecture. ASM with normal redundancy can be used to spread the data across multiple disk arrays in the separate datacenters.
30KM between the two datacenters, I think he said 0.2ms ping round trip time.
Used ASM to migrate from original storage to new storage
Could not add/remove css votedisk while nodes were up, cluster downtime was required. Fixed 11g
ouch! They run dd on the incorrect disk
Created 3rd failgroup which meant some extents got mirrored within a datacenter
ASMLib using emcpower device, but after restart single path devices used after restart.
Found accessing local devices were 10-20% times faster than accessing the remote disks.
11g ASM benefits for extended RAC
ASM_PREFFERED_READ_FAILURE_GROUPS allows you to specify only local access to diskgroups – allowing secondary extents to be read as well, rather than just always primary extents
FAST Mirror Resync changes are tracked
Contiuent Replication & Oracle – Eter Pani
I did not like this talk. I’m afraid it semed a little shambolic.
Oh my god, he has just said it’s “almost working” does replication master-slave, and master-master might work someday. originally built with mysql. Might work with oracle.
Continuent is cheap, that seems to be the main selling point.
Continuent seems to work by extracting sql from the redo logs and firing these sql statements at the target database. No parallel applier.
I don’t think you would want to use this product for serious Oracle deployments.
Next meeting RAC & HA SIG meeting is 16th June in London, see you there!
Posted by jarneil on February 12, 2009
Just for completeness, I thought I’d share my experiences of the final day of the 2008 UKOUG.
Interpreting Execution Plans – Christian Antognini
Packed in like sardines for Christian Antognini’s talk on reading explain plans, I’ve already reviewed his book, and this talk was covering chapter 6.
First bit is a run through of getting plans. I think this is easy bit, the hard bit is actually understanding the plan you’ve found and then actually doing something about it.
Ways of getting a plan are:
select * from table(DBMS_XPLAN.DISPLAY_AWR (sql_id, hash_value)
@?/rdbms/admin/awrsqrpt.sql – realy, really, useful
Already used this script and it gives you a plan and the resources consumed by this bit of sql – looks excellent, just plug in a time period when you know the sql was running and plug in a sql_id. Could not be easier to get historical explain plans.
execution plan is a tree with every node being an operation.
parent has 1 or multiple child
a child has a single parent
only node in tree without a parent is the root
child to indented to the right of parent
parent id is always < child id
about 200 types of operations
3 different types:
has at most 1 child
generally children executed before parent (though not always)
child executed at most
every child feeds it’s parent.
operations having multiple children that are independently executed
every child executed only once
all operations having multiple children where one of the children controls the execution of all other children are related-combine operations.
child with smallest id controls the exectuon. children are not executed sequentially but a kind of interleaving is performed.
only the first child is executed at most once. All others may be exected several times or not at all.
not every child feeds it’s parents.
Chris showed examples of each type and had quite a large example to follow. He showed quite nicely how to split the larger plan into chunks of the type he covered, but when you just see the big plan, it is really hard to know where to start,.
At the end Chris mentioned the extended explain plan information were you compare what the optimiser estimates to be the number of rows returned by a query, and the actual amount it really got when it ran. When the estimate and the actual vary by a lot, this is often where a plan is going awry.
Another way of trying to optimise plans it to spot how many rows are returned and if there are steps that are throwing away large numbers of rows then try to get these steps down as early as possible – so there is less throwaway work being done – which is back to what Dan Fink was saying on Thursday.
Advanced Oracle Troubleshooting – Tanel Poder
For my money, this was the best presentation of the whole week.
I’ve been avidly following Tanel’s blog for a very long time and he was basically showing his systematic procedure for obtaining the cause of various issues. This was mostly demos which he handled with aplomb.
Most interesting for me was using pstack to see what a process was up to.
UKOUG In Summary
So that is UKOUG over for another year. 5 days is probably a bit too much for me, I’ll be happy when it’s down to 3. I think I learned this year that you must rehearse before you present, rather than just rely on the fact you have presented the same material 3 months earlier. If I get to present next year, maybe I’ll wait to write it to closer to the conference – I’ve been presenting on ASM for the best part of a year now, but I think it’s time to get back to dataguard!
I also learned this year that the after conference beer is probably more interesting than the actual presentations. Though it seems like I missed out on of the best presentations this year, “Drive Heads Revisited”.
Posted by jarneil on December 8, 2008
Too many late nights in the pub meant I started off the day feeling a bit rough, and I managed to pay £15.75 for a bowl of museli. Hotel breakfasts really have an enormous markup.
CERN – Luca Canali & Dawid Wojcik
Good slide on why they use ASM, in particular they are using it to hook up multiple RAID arrays and use ASM to mirror and stripe across them.
Luca stress tested ASM using a 14 node RAC cluster connected to 26 storage arrays with 16 SATA drives per array.
seeing IOPS per drive of 100 and this scales all the way to 40K IOPS with 410 drives.
WOW. CERN have 550TB of storage.
LUCA seeing that a rebalance operation moves more data than you would initially think it would: excessive re-partnering.
Not using ASMLib but use device mapper instead.
partition disks to ensure only outer/faster part of the disk is used for storing data.
Some scripts that give them devid, device name, multipath name, & status.
RMAN Optimizations- Stephan Haisley
unused block compression
now using locally managed tablespace bitmap. if extent is not allocated. Gah only works to tape with oracle secure backup – that is a marketing decision not technical. Does go to disk
Does not work when you have a restore point set!?!
in 11gR1 undo blocks that are part of committed transactions are not backed up. reduces the number of blocks in the backup, uses SCN numbers. Again only to tape with Secure backup. Though will work to disk
10gR1 using bzip2 great (~70%) compression but slow. 11gR1 added ZLIB compression.
To use ZLIB you need advanced compression option
11gR1 split large datafile into smaller contiguous blocks or sections created in parallel. if backup fails it can restart from the failed section.
When doing block media recovery the recovery will only use the section required rather than have to read a full huge backup of a datafile.
Good demo of Data Recovery Advisor, which Stephan had a hand in creating.
Virtual Reality?: Can Oracle VM deliver the virtual RAC Grid – Steve Shaw
I really quite liked this presentations and I did learn a lot. Virtualisation in some ways is like an oncoming train and I suspect for some people it may be get aboard it or get ran over by it.
In fact, in some ways Steve’s style of presenting is a bit like a bullet train he really barely stops but he packed a lot of good stuff into his presentation.
RAC is supported on Oracle VM with 32-bit linux
there is a choice between HVM (Hardware virtualisation) and PV (paravirtualized)
PV means the guest O/S has to be modified.
Hardware virtualisation built into the chip
talking about live migrations (to a different server) of RAC hosts using Oracle VM – not yet possible, but one day?
performance of paravirtualisation better than HVM. However Intel VT-d seems to make a huge difference to performance, graph showing perf almost as good as native.
Inside ASM – Julian Dyke
Julian’s presentation concentrated on how extents (including the metadata) is placed on disk in normal and high redundancy and what happens to them when you perform various rebalancing tasks.
Variance as a Tool – Robyn Sands
Robyn has such a great way of presenting she appears very calm and in control while on stage and has such a mellifluous voice that you could listen for longer than 45 minutes.
Robyn comes from a process engineering background, and I think the main idea was to check for processes/sql that have wild variations in response time and try to understand why this is happening as these tend to be the problematic sql statements – though some variation could be due to cyclical events.
Optimising by throwaway – Daniel Fink
I think there is a lot to this technique – find where in an explain that lots of rows are being processed and then later on in someway being filtered out and tune this part so that you do less of the work that is getting thrown away.
This idea makes good logical sense I think. Dan is obviously a highly accomplished speaker but it was a real shame he got the timing badly muddled up and spent really far too long explain the (pretty simple concept) and then had practically no time left to show the power of the idea in practice – I thought a wasted opportunity.
Spent a long time in the pub afterwards.
Posted by jarneil on December 5, 2008
Oracle’s Stephan Haisley was asking if you could have any changes implemented in the Oracle HA sphere would they be?
I was thinking I would like physical standby to be able to operate across versions so you could upgrade your standby to say 12 while your primary is 11 sync it back up and switchover – giving you a very quick (and easy) way of upgrading database versions.
Not many people using the Observer.
Some chat about licensing Oracle when using clusterware to failover a single node instance. You don’t need a RAC license just to use clusterware or indeed run clustered ASM.
Moans Norgaard – Shock Upgrades
Very funny talk.
“All developers have left earth and gone into the cloud where they will reinvent the things that the database can do already”
Talking about a customer who implemented 4-node windows RAC had major problems, mentioning 9 months of pain and the customer is moving to 1 node RAC!?!
The danish experiment involoves using the diagnostic & tuning pack with Real Applications Testing.
Idea is to capture 10.2.0.4 workload and replay it into the 11g upgraded production copy.
back to the real world:
Upgrades are hell!
10g EM did not work for capture – but PL/SQL did
11g PL/SQL only gives XML reports!?!
nice and useful replay reports.
With these caveats RAT seems to work.
Moans stating that the upgrade does not work, but now talking about going 9i -> 10.2.0.4
Not clear yet why a 10.2.0.4 -> 11g upgrade did not work. Saying upgrades/patches have become worse, not really seeing that between 10g versions.
So a real shock upgrade is going 188.8.131.52 -> 11g
Saying no one wants to upgrade to 11g
Oracle Performance Management – Gaja Vaidyanatha
Performance tuning methodology
Trap: though normally true, the most expensive step from an elapsed time point of view is not always the step with the most rows processed.
service time = f(hardware specs, laws of physics)
wait time = f(wasteful processing, resource contention)
8 real world case studies
case study 0 shows 15 logon per seconds – mw not using connection pooling.
More case studies, perhaps the most interesting at the end which was a Solaris 10 problem and one which the standard performance methodology could not help with , needed to look at O/S.
This talk was at least 1.5 hours, and I just felt it was maybe just a bit too long!
Dataguard 11g New Features – Michael Moller
This was meant to have been delivered by Carl Jan Engel but he could not make it.
This was a run through of some of the more interesting new features with good observations on what new features were useful, and which were pretty pointless. I found it particularly amusing when he used the term the broken rather than the broker.
Michael’s demos went AWOL, but I don’t think it harmed things too much.
It’s a shame that most of the good stuff is a paid option, including active dataguard.
The evening was the 25th Anniversary party with the night being rounded of far too late in the tap & spile
Posted by jarneil on December 4, 2008
Today was mostly a working day for me, so I did not get to see many presentations. I did however manage to bunk off and attend my good friend and colleague Patrick Hurley’s presentation.
His talk was titled “Practical Data Pump” and a very well attended Hall 5 saw a couple of very well executed demos. I know Patrick worked really hard on this and the reaction from the crowd was pretty positive so it looked like the work paid off in spades.
Though to be fair, his jokes are still terrible.
In the evening I was at the UKOUG focus pubs to hear Julian Dyke get elected as a Director of the UKOUG. Afterwards had a really entertaining evening with the great CERN DBAs, and the exuberant (mad) RAL folks.
Three more pretty full conference days to go!
Posted by jarneil on December 3, 2008
I arrived on the Monday morning for the UKOUG this year, as I figured I’d sleep best at home. The train was packed and it was £46 to stand all the way. And there I was hoping for a nice hour or so to go over the presentation a final time
Oracle 10g Streams: Data Replication – Kirtikumar Deshpande
I’ve always thought streams was more complicated than dataguard. I still think that after this talk, but DBMS_STREAMS_ADM.MAINTAIN procedures seem to make streams a little bit easier to set up.
Streams is a free option with Enterprise Edition. Streams is a solution for data sharing.
3 functional components of streams
Asynchronously captures locally or at downstream database
Extracts changes from the redo stream
changes are formatted as a Logical Change Record (LCR)
DML LCR has row change, object name, owner type of DML, SCN. Most importantly OLD and NEW values for columns.
DDL LCR object name, owner, type of DDL, SCN, DDL text
capture publishes messages into an in-memory staging area: streams pool of SGA
Messages remain in staging area until consumed by all subscribers
Apply engine will directly apply the DML or DDL represented by the LCR.
automatic conflict resolution.
Rule based configuration
rules govern capture, staging and apply
Demo of streams being set up with the SCOTT schema using DBMS_STREAMS_ADM.MAINTAIN_TABLES
even less information required when using DBMS_STREAMS_ASM.MAINTAIN_SCHEMA
set _job_queue_interval = 1 (10g recommendation)
streams_pool_size = 200M (minimum set at source and destination)
for wans set SDU
streams uses data pump, dataguard, & advanced queueing.
In chat later in the day, Martin Bach mentioned that streams was still prone to lots of bugs and perhaps was not all that reliable.
Introduction to ASM & ZFS – Me
Well it went ok, but I thought I was a little flat at the beginning. It was a small audience and the stage was also quite a small creaky affair.
Good discussion sprung up amongst the audience around 1/2 way through, though as Doug Burns points out, the question about the SAN was a little bit odd.
Some really nice feedback from Joel Goodman at the end with some tips for improvement.
FAN – Bernhard De Cock Buning
A really small turnout for this, maybe a post lunch thing. Bernhard’s talk was based around quite a few demos, but unfortunately about half way through his laptop gave up the ghost. He stoically carried on, but I think the lack of demos really took the wind out of his sails – what an unfortunate time to have a laptop failure!
Thank Goodness for Dataguard – Rachel Slade
Rachel runs the DBA team at Oxford Brookes, which is just up the road from Nominet, and incidentally where my partner works. Her talk was a good user group talk, in that it consisted of her real world experiences rather than what *should* happen.
Essentially during maintenance/power outages brookes suffered some problems with their storage meaning that had to utilise their dataguard instance. They are really just using dataguard as a “hot” offsite backup, and essentially performed rman backups to recover then rolled forward using the archivelogs found at their DR site.
I personally felt this architecture lacks a little innovation, i.e. Brookes has no potential to failover/switchover to their DR site, but Rachel was stressing the point of keeping it simple and they have seen a return on their dataguard investment.
The Best Way – Tom Kyte
Tom is such an engaging speaker that the time just flies past when he is on stage. The best bit for me, was the cartoon on questioning authority – always question, question, question – I was just saying that to my partner the other day that this is how one should always be and it’s the attitude I want the kids to have.
Come to think of it, I pretty much constantly here why, why, why at home!
Posted by jarneil on December 2, 2008
I’ve not quite made it up to Birmingham yet, decided to travel up in the morning. My presenting slot is 12:20 on Monday, so I’m hoping for a good nights sleep at home beforehand, I don’t travel well (or often) and can find hotels take a while to get used to.
I’ve stayed at the City Inn in Birmingham for the last 7 or 8 years, but this year we have a new system at work and I’ve been booked into the Copthorne. I’ve just looked up trip advisor and was delighted to find that most guests are royally slagging it off. Dirty, noisy that kind of thing. The review mentioning the mice particularly caught my eye. It’s not cheap either!
This year as last I’m scheduled to speak at the same time as Tom Kyte. This has a couple of drawbacks – Hall 1 is obviously taken – I’m in Hall 11a this year, and I can’t get to see Tom myself!
This year I’m particularly looking forwards to Chris Antognini’s 2 hour masterclass, as well as the 2 hours from Tanel Poder. These are both on Friday, which should make it a great end to the conference – if I can keep concentrating until then.
With it being the 25th Anniversary of the UKOUG there are quite a few parties lined up. I’m hoping it will be an entertaining few days – the weather being suitably damp and cold – well it is December in Birmingham, sure ain’t San Francisco in September.
Posted by jarneil on November 30, 2008
I got a question after my “What ASM Can Do For You” presentation yesterday regarding where I got the images that are in the presentation and why there was no attribution.
An example below is one I have used in the past when talking about myths:
The images I use are all micro stock photos. These are low cost royalty free images from amateur as well as professional photographers. They are particularly useful for promotional literature and presentations, but you must not use the images for sale on things like t-shirts or mugs.
The site I tend to use is iStockPhoto which charges $3 a for a suitably sized image for use in presentations.
One option you could use, if you balked at paying around £1.50 per image, would be to use Flickr and look for images with a Creative Commons. However, these do need attribution though this could just be a slide at the end listing the copyright holders.
I find that images with the creative commons license tend not to be quite as useful as real stock photos – the stock photos tend to have a lot of empty space that you can use to actually put some text on!
The theory is of course, that it is easier for the audience to listen to the presenter when they are not being distracted by reading bullet point filled slides. Also having an appropriate visual image to go with what the presenter is saying should make it easier for the audience to remember the points.
It certainly feels more interesting creating a presentation where you have to think a bit more creatively than slapping those bullets down onto your powerpoint template.
Posted by jarneil on October 3, 2008
Thankfully I had my excellent colleague, Arjan Van Der Meer, to drive me up to the heritage motor center on a bright sunny day.
It was quite a poor turnout really, down to 43. Probably the lowest RAC & HA SIG turnout, and much less than the last time we were at this venue.
I did not have my laptop for the first section, which means I failed to fully get down the results of the usual survey of who was using what, and the support update. There were no RAC on Windows users. Almost equal numbers of HP-UX and Solaris users, but as always these days it was Linux that was in the majority.
A good number using ASM but a few on OCFS as well.
I was really happy with my presentation, I’m sure I presented more fluently than previously at the UNIX SIG. This time had setup the presenters tools in powerpoint so I could see bullets for each slide as reminders. I will do this for all future presentations – it made a huge difference, instead of trying to remember everything for every slide!
Of course there were no bullets on the slides
Excellent number of questions were asked at the end.
You can actually access the presentation from the link in the title above. Watch out though – it’s 45MB!
Exadata Database Machine – John Nangle
John Nangle gave a presentation on the Exadata Storage Server and the HP-Oracle Database machine, one throw away comment he made at the beginning seemed to indicate it was just hp for now indicating there may be more hardware vendors in future – though I could have read too much into that one.
Big push on the data warehousing angle. Run through of the speeds and feeds.
Interesting he talked about the IORM – the I/O Resource Manager which allows different databases accesing the exadata to be given differing priority for I/O. Can also be done on a per user basis as well.
slide on offloading the processing of query predicates down to the storage thereby reducing the ammount of traffic/disk blocks sent back to the database server. This is reffered to as smart scans and are transparent to the application.
have to move to Oracle 184.108.40.206 to utilise this.
Explained the concept of cell disks & grid disks.
cell disks are logically partitioned into grid disks – this allows you to partition the disks in the storage server, e.g. outer fast part & inner slow part.
database can co-exist on both exadata and no exadata so some tablespaces on exadata and some tablespaces on non-exadata.
Little bit of marketing with the usual telco beta customers.
Again John mentioned that there may be more vendors – that seems quite surprising to me! I understand wanting to support more than Linux, but different hardware vendors – i’d have thought hp would have got the exclusive deal.
Interestingly john claimed a year ago, it was intended to ship via more than 1 vendor.
Julian asks a question about upgrading the exadata software itself, john was saying this has not thought out yet.
oooh, the explain plan should table access storage full if it’s benefited from the smart scan interesting that this is visible.
Oracle 10.2.0.4 – The Patch that ate my cluster – David Burnham
This is a war story about 10.2.0.4.
The customer Dave was working was encouraged(forced) to upgrade to 10.2.0.4 due to a sql execution plan bug. this was on a 4 node RAC cluster.
After the 10.2.0.4 there was cluster instability with regular node eviction.
On the evicted node there was almost no diagnostic information – this is classic oprocd.
Oprocd has been around on other UNIX platforms for a while, but only appeared on Linux on 10.2.0.4
Oprocd manages node evictions
OPROCD is much more agressive than the linux kernel hangcheck timer.
changed the diagwait 13 within clusterware – has to be down.
however changing the diagwait changes the parameters that oprocd runs with.
why did the default settings not work? Dave was running on RedHat 2.4 with a netapp nfs filer. Oracle home and clusterware and data on the filer.
dave was blaming network interrupts. oprocd runs in real time priority, but it wont get priority over network interrupts.
metalink note 567730.1
really good discussion afterwards, I pointed out it happened to me with RedHat 4 & SAN and lots of people had stated they had seen this as well.
RAC Certification Exam Options – Joel Goodman
About half attendees are OCP certified.
There are various levels of certification:
Barely anyone in the room have the Oracle clusterware managed by SA team – all done dbas, that would not be the case if it was Veritas “clusterware”
No OCE or OCM’s in the room.
Basically no one in the room using Oracle Enterprise Linux.
Joel criticised the early exams, (7, 8) which were farmed out to a 3rd party company to produce them from the oracle course docs.
Joel has written about 25% of the 10g RAC OCE exam.
Experimental simulation questions on Enterprise Manager.
OCM exams are much more practical based, over two days, but with access to the documentation.
Creation of a 12 node stretched cluster – Jason Hughes
First cluster Q1 2003 on 9i
stretched clusters done in 2005
10 stretched clusters
graph of the number of dbs deployed over time. goes up to 500 dbs
wanted to control hardware growth and cost
lots of idle hardware
wanted better uptime
wow 2 x 10g links for the stretched cluster which are seperated by about 10K
using symobilic links on to the powerpath device rather than have to directly access the powerpath device.
they initially did not have 3 voting disks, just 1 voting disk. and they lost one site that contained the voting disk.
complaining that oracle support could not confirm what to use for 3rd voting disk.
RACPACK came to the rescue and made basic nfs servers rather than just netapp supported for the voting disk.
ASM metadata corruption meant ASM refused to start, very little diagnostic information. Jason said the corruption did not occur on RedHat 4.
had an 8-9 hours outage while the dd’d the disks and rebuild the databases. Called in Oracle support.
Oracle employee said that no one was using failure groups and their management told them to remove as it was not standard industry architecture.
management not happy with all databases being dependent on ASM
now using SRDF for mirroring the data across site.
running on 10.2
he created multiple ASM instances as the business did not want one ASM instances being able to bring down the entire db estate.
Intersting, if they thought it was say veritas file system hosting multiple db’s, would they be so concerned?
seem to not really have the mindset that ASM is a filesystem/volume manager focussing much more on the fact it needs an instance to run.
Created a backup VIP
mentioned a bug about restoring voting disks being quite larger than when you backed them up. metalink note 399482.1
Monitoring difficult. e.g. how do you now if you have lost a disk but your failure group is handling the problem.
lost 3rd site with the voting disk but the primary sight had other dependencies (NIS) on the 3rd site.
default environment is a 2 node rac cluster for any part of the business requesting a database.
Interesting discussion where BA where testing stretched cluster at the same time as RBS, but BA did far, far more testing. Almost seems like RBS were ahead of time, deploying on 10gR1.
I’m afraid I skipped the last talk on Active Dataguard – I had seen it before. All in all though another interesting UKOUG eventJ
Posted by jarneil on October 2, 2008